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The Privacy Advisor | Volunteer Spotlight: A conversation with Jay Loder Related reading: Volunteer Spotlight: A conversation with Dorota Kosela





Jay Loder, CIPP/C, CIPM, FIP, is founder and principal of Vancouver-based Rouleur Privacy Consulting. Loder and his firm provide privacy and information-management advice and training to both public bodies and private organizations. Prior to launching his own firm, Loder was responsible for the privacy and information access program at the Insurance Corporation of British Columbia.

Here, Loder details what it took to get his career and firm off the ground while also diving into what drives his passion for the topic of privacy.

Jay Loder

The Privacy Advisor: First, explain how you volunteer with the IAPP.

Loder: Presently I’m on the IAPP faculty; I deliver CIPM and CIPP/C training. In the past, I’ve served two terms on the Canadian Advisory Board and have been both a KnowledgeNet chair and co-chaired the Canadian Symposium.

The Privacy Advisor: What was the driving force behind you joining the privacy world?

Loder: Like so many privacy professionals, I stumbled into it. Years ago, I was working at an organization where the manager of privacy and information access was seconded to another position. My boss asked if I wanted to backfill the spot on a temporary basis, and that’s how it all started.

The Privacy Advisor: Being the founder of your own firm, what did it take to establish credibility and clientele?

Loder: Fortunately, I had been working in the privacy and information-management field for many years, so I had some credibility to start with. But like anything, I had to get out and find the work, then I started getting referrals from there. I think it’s a continuous journey to establish credibility.

The Privacy Advisor: Who has been your greatest influence in privacy, and how have they left their mark?

Loder: That is a hard question to answer. There are many people who I believe have had an influence. When I first got involved in the IAPP, it was a really small organization. I was impressed and inspired by people like [J.] Trevor Hughes, CIPP, [CEO of the IAPP] and Amy Sherwood, CIPP/US, CIPM, [vice president] who helped shape the privacy profession. I’ve also had the pleasure of working with people on the regulator side, like [U.K. Information Commissioner] Liz Denham, who shows quiet (and sometimes not so quiet) leadership. When I think about it, all of them share a common trait of being authentic, and they’re all really nice people. The greatest influence, though, would be the wide range of people who hire me to come into their space, share their story and allow me to help shape their privacy programs.  

The Privacy Advisor: What Canadian privacy topic is most interesting/important to you right now, and why?

Loder: I find that in Canada, like so many other jurisdictions, people today are more aware of issues relating to privacy and what may be happening to their personal information. To me, that is super important and super interesting. The conversations we now have today with friends, acquaintances and colleagues are so much different than what they were just a few years ago. Issues like the Sidewalk Labs smart-city project in Toronto is really interesting, as are emerging issues with autonomous cars and artificial intelligence. In Canada, as in many jurisdictions, the influence that the [EU General Data Protection Regulation] may exert is also very interesting.

The Privacy Advisor: A fun one to end things: I can’t help but notice your last name and a striking resemblance to former Rolling Stone editor and MTV News anchor Kurt Loder. Is there any relation there, or am I just seeing things? If there is, how often does this get pointed out, and how’s Kurt doing?

Loder: Wait, what? No relation to Kurt Loder. And comparing me to Kurt Loder is like comparing Trevor Hughes to Justin Timberlake or perhaps Justin Timberlake to Trevor Hughes. And the last time someone mentioned this resemblance I was probably a Blackberry customer.

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