This episode of The Privacy Advisor Podcast features Rachel Tobac. Tobac won last year’s Social Engineering Capture The Flag contest at DEFCON in Las Vegas.

She’s got this great story about it, partly because she doesn’t work in privacy or security. She’s a senior community manager at Course Hero, an online learning platform. But her husband was at DEFCON the year prior, and immediately knew Rachel would love the competition. Despite her complete lack of experience in the field, she was selected to make it to the actual competition live at DEFCON. Hear her describe her experience in a glass phone booth, trying to get random, unsuspecting people to give up their company information. Winning the contest led her to the nonprofit group Women in Security and Privacy, which she now actively works within. Editor’s Note: Attending the IAPP’s Global Privacy Summit and interested in women in privacy? Check out Women Leading Privacy After Hours Tuesday, April 18, and the Women Leading Privacy Speed Networking Wednesday, April 19.